ARgh! Sometimes I hate being in Canuck-land! I can’t see the link.. because I live in the wrong country.. yeah.. uh huh. Oh well. Too bad for Jon Stewart.
The man is brilliant. OK, except for the hallah pun.
Oh, and I’m back to thinking about Tim McVeigh, who did get his Miranda rights and the full protection of the U.S. Constitution, and still paid the highest penalty for his terrorist crime.
And, because I’m staying up way too late, I’ll be indiscrete about the possibility that some countries perhaps saw the U.S. as being hypocritical in lodging complaints about human rights abuses in countries where due process isn’t followed and then holding “enemy combatants” (guess the friendly combatants weren’t a problem – who makes us these dumb catch phrases and, yes, I’m glad to see the back end of the GWOT as the USG staff came to call the Global War on Terror, cue the heavy reverb).
And one last rant and then I’ll return your blog. People need to stop thinking about “what would you do if someone knew something that could save your family?” and recognize that protection under the law has two sides. Sometimes mistakes get made and the wrong person ends up as a suspect (let us recall that poor Brazilian electrician in Britian, who ran, since he was an illegal immigrant, not because he’d just tried to blow up a bus). If torture is considered justified, then anyone could be tortured.
And, no, torture doesn’t work. Until the Vulcan mind meld or its equivalent arrives and that always looked like it hurt Spock more than the victim…
Have a good weekend!
P.S. We were talking about torture at lunch and it took me some time to come up with the Landau report formulation “moderate physical pressure”, which I characterized as Torture Lite. Got a laugh from the collaegue who does human rights.
ARgh! Sometimes I hate being in Canuck-land! I can’t see the link.. because I live in the wrong country.. yeah.. uh huh. Oh well. Too bad for Jon Stewart.
The man is brilliant. OK, except for the hallah pun.
Oh, and I’m back to thinking about Tim McVeigh, who did get his Miranda rights and the full protection of the U.S. Constitution, and still paid the highest penalty for his terrorist crime.
And, because I’m staying up way too late, I’ll be indiscrete about the possibility that some countries perhaps saw the U.S. as being hypocritical in lodging complaints about human rights abuses in countries where due process isn’t followed and then holding “enemy combatants” (guess the friendly combatants weren’t a problem – who makes us these dumb catch phrases and, yes, I’m glad to see the back end of the GWOT as the USG staff came to call the Global War on Terror, cue the heavy reverb).
And one last rant and then I’ll return your blog. People need to stop thinking about “what would you do if someone knew something that could save your family?” and recognize that protection under the law has two sides. Sometimes mistakes get made and the wrong person ends up as a suspect (let us recall that poor Brazilian electrician in Britian, who ran, since he was an illegal immigrant, not because he’d just tried to blow up a bus). If torture is considered justified, then anyone could be tortured.
And, no, torture doesn’t work. Until the Vulcan mind meld or its equivalent arrives and that always looked like it hurt Spock more than the victim…
Have a good weekend!
P.S. We were talking about torture at lunch and it took me some time to come up with the Landau report formulation “moderate physical pressure”, which I characterized as Torture Lite. Got a laugh from the collaegue who does human rights.
Life without Jon Stewart would be a lot harder.